In this episode, Cara sits down with Anthony Rodriquez from 136home to share tips for uncovering your personal style when it comes to your home and how to strategically thrift pieces to curate a home with a cohesive style. We dive deep into strategies for intentionally curating your space over time and how to source the right pieces to make your vision come to life.

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How to create a cohesive home with anthony rodriguez of @136home, a podcast episode from top us home blogger, Never Skip Brunch

in this episode:

✨  4 design strategies for finding your personal style
✨ developing your personal style over time through experimentation
✨ pro strategies for thrifting pieces for your home — finding items that fit your space
✨ using a go-to inspo photo to guide your aesthetic & help you buy strategically
✨ creating cohesiveness in your space through repeated elements
✨ Anthony’s strategy for creating a curated & personal aesthetic in his home
✨ Anthony’s journey with power tools, finding confidence to dive in and diy
obsessed — changing your door hardware
trend talk — color trends & insider tips from the Vegas Market

chatting with…

Anthony is the creator of 136home. Brand manager by day, and interior stylist, home decor, design, and DIY enthusiast by night – nestled in the heart of San Francisco. @136 home he fosters an inclusive community of like-minded folk mixing old + new to design a home he loves one detail at a time. @136home it’s all about, curating home over time with affordable finds, smart design, and DIY’s while discussing everything home all day, every day…bringing a bit of everyday magic into your lives. 

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instagram: @136home blog: 136home


I’m obsessed with my new door handles — I swapped my builder-grade knobs for gorgeous modern gold levers.

If you want to swap out your door handles, I made a couple videos that will be super helpful as you pick & install your handles:

01. — CHOOSING NEW DOOR HANDLES + design elements to consider

02 — CHANGE DOOR HANDLE – diy hardware replacement

trend talk

Current color trends I saw at the Vegas Market:

  • Neutral & creamy whites with natural tones is kind of the frontrunner for spaces in terms of trends, but mixing pops of color  into that is definitely trending too
  • I’m noticing muted color palettes, with colors that are very greyed out and muted which means you get color but with a more subtle look and moody feel
  • In terms of specific colors — warm golds, mustard yellows, and oranges are super in as well as a muted medium blue
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Anthony Rodriguez: [00:00:00] when I style a shelf it’s like create that vocal point. Don’t be afraid to just put two or three things on a shelf and let something next to it. Be blank. Because it lets it read, you know, it lets it read and your eye will dance between each of those vignettes.    

Cara Newhart: Hey, it’s Cara  and I’m on a mission to help you find your style. Learn to tackle home design without intimidation and unlock the confidence to transform your spaces on the show. Today, I’m sitting down with my friend, Anthony from one, three, six home. Anthony is amazingly talented at curating home. That’s very expressive of his personal style.

It literally looks designer and it’s made with many and mostly thrifted items. We’re diving into strategies for uncovering your personal style, as well as some tips for thrifting, for an elevated looking space, because he literally is like a professional thrifter. He’s the person that you want to get tips from in terms of how to carefully select items for a space that looks polished.


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Cara Newhart: as you know, before we dive into the interview, I give you some quick and practical design strategies that you can use to create spaces, your obsessed with – I’m going to share some quick design strategies for how to uncover your personal style. Tip number one tastes are developed over time. So your personal style, isn’t something you can find through a style quiz. It’s not a checklist of design elements that you like or labels, but a certain point of view style is a perspective and a way in which you curate and see the world.

This voice is something that you develop over time and it changes as you grow and change. Your style is influenced by your life experience. So when you’re uncovering your style, don’t look for, you know, the elements you like, or the words that you think you should use, like, you know, modern or contemporary.

That’s not your style. Your style goes deeper than that. And this is also very freeing because you don’t have to define your style or fit it into any of those labels. They can be very helpful in guiding you, but they are not. The end all be all of your style. Your style is personal. And I think once you shift to think about style in this framework, it becomes so much easier to figure out.

What your style is. So it’s suggested episode, I would follow up if you’re really struggling to find your style is number 38. It’s all about how to use Pinterest to design your house and some great tips for how to translate inspiration into your actual space in a way that feels like you and not like copy and paste.

So that can be a really good place to start for some people when style kind of feels abstract. To have that kind of practical strategy for exploring their style. That could be a good followup to this episode. So tip number two is to look to your story, to inform your style. So if style is about your personal voice your story can really inform what that looks like.

So on a basic level, this looks like doing this literally. So having certain decor items that are sentimental or have a personal story behind them, like a personal heirloom or a piece of driftwood that you found on vacation taking this deeper, you might not translate your story literally into decor items fit.

Instead, you might use your life experiences to inspire certain elements of your style and kind of interpret them through more expressive ways. Like. Pink color, texture and art. What about your story? And your journey is special. And what can you incorporate into that point of view or your voice? I think this is a really cool perspective on style and a really cool starting point style, your voice and your story as kind of like what informs the elements that make up that voice.

I know this can feel a little abstract when we’re talking about homes, because normally when you think of your home style, you think of those categories or those buzzwords, but I want to encourage you to shift your thinking and think of it in a totally different way, because I think it might help you really uncover what your true.

Style is so number three is to always break the rules and always trust your gut. This is interesting because I find in conversations about style. People are usually telling you either to, you know, use the rules and work within them and find your style according to, you know, these different types of styles that are out there, like modern or farmhouse or whatever it is.

And then some designers will tell you, like, Throw that out entirely and you don’t need them and, you know, just do what you love. But I think there’s a middle ground when you consider what these trends and what these like design rules really are. So style trends and rules are basically just what happens when many of us are experiencing a certain design concept from a certain perspective.

At a certain point in time. So trends are something that you should try on and you should experiment with, and you should choose through your gut feelings about them. So, yes, if you don’t love it, it’s not for you. But they’re amazingly helpful in terms of giving you a reference point, giving you something to work with.

So you’re not designing and avoid or starting from scratch. And so I think there’s this middle ground where it’s like, you do what you love, but you also embrace like these trends. You embrace these moments of many people, you know, trying this. Style on or trying this trend on at the same time. You can be a part of that, and that is like a fun way to experience your home and experience, keeping it fresh or trying new things in your space.

So I just thought that was really interesting way to think about it because it’s not about like, should I follow the rule or not? It’s about what can I try on almost like. You know, clothing, like what fits me, let’s try it all out. And let’s see what feels like me. What feels like my voice and what fits my story.

And my last tip is that style doesn’t come from inspo photos. It comes from you. So this is kind of challenging because I think when you’re first defining your style, you kind of need a reference point to have those elements, like, you know, pink colors or. Vibes light and airy or trends like farmhouse.

You need those kind of visually to be able to kind of have a reference point to see what you like and what you don’t like. But when you really kind of break out of that box and realize like your style is coming from you as an expression, and you’re just using those elements as tools to express your style, it’s so empowering because it means you don’t have to invent your own unique style out of nowhere.

You’ll use style as a reflection of you. So great style doesn’t mean that you’re simply good at curating. You’re simply good at putting together trends from inspo photos that you found and you curated a great combination. It means that you’re using design elements to express your voice and your perspective in a way that’s unique.

And it can’t be replicated because it’s a unique perspective. It’s your voice. And this is also why I think diversity and design is so important because looking up to different designers with different backgrounds and different perspectives helps us broaden our own perspective and kind of grow our voice.

So I know this got really like artsy design school conversation really fast, but I wanted to kind of try to reframe how you think about style and maybe give you some elements that can help you feel. Empowered to step into your own voice and own that as your style versus versus trying to like piece together design elements and create this like Frankenstein situation.

That is your style. Design elements can certainly help and design rules can absolutely help guide you. But at the end of the day, it’s not just about what you’ve love. It’s about your voice, your point of view and what you want to express, whether that’s a vibe. How are you feeling? Or part of your story.

So I think that’s a really beautiful way to think about style. And now I want to dive into this conversation with Anthony, because he literally embodies this concept of truly expressing a unique point of view. That’s cohesive. That feels like him. He knows how to respect the boundaries of his style when something is not for him.

So I think you’re going to get so much out of this conversation in terms of how to express your style and not only that, how to do it affordably. Are thrifting items in a very, a really amazing way. It’s so good. So let’s dive into this conversation with Anthony.


Cara Newhart: [00:09:54] Okay, welcome back to make space. Today. I am diving in with a really good friend of mine. We are talking about personal style. He has the best defined style that you will ever find on Instagram. He has one specific corner of his house that I say is my favorite corner on the internet for good reason.

There’s a yellow situation going on. We’ll get into that, but for now welcome Anthony. I’m so excited to have you on today.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:10:20] Cara  I’m so over the moon, this is so exciting. I’m a fan. So thanks for having me on today. This is great.

Cara Newhart: [00:10:27] Oh, my gosh. You’re too kind. Well, I can not wait to break down your style and some of your strategies, because you are just so good at navigating, like building a really cohesive style over time. So I feel like you have so, so many good hidden gems to share with the listeners.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:10:44] Absolutely happy to share.

Cara Newhart: [00:10:45] Yeah. Perfect. So the first thing I kind of want to dive into is just your personal style.

I think you have such a strong and defined sense of your style. It’s very expressive and it feels very cohesive throughout your home, which I think for someone. Early on in their journey is very hard to see, you know, just starting out how you could get there. So how did you get clear on what your style was?

Was it always something that was kind of like innate within you that you just needed an outlet to express? Or was it like for real, a journey of trial and error?

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:11:19] Okay. That’s such a good question. You know, and I was, you know, it’s, it’s one of those things, when you ask people sort of, I think like, well, how did you get into this stuff? I was that kid that, you know, that. Was cutting out magazine, pictures and framing them and putting them in their room and like grabbing my mom’s frames and like being like, Hey, can I like take out this picture of me?

That’s super awkward from seventh grade and put it group right. And what I was telling my mom about sort of my journey with it, she was like, you know, you’ve always done that. Right. And it sort of surprised me,  like it, for some reason it was like, I didn’t. He’s like, you don’t always acknowledge the things that are in yourself innately.

So yeah, I guess the short answer is that it’s always been something that I’ve done. You know, I was the kid that always did my room up in a theme and was moving furniture around and When we’d go, you know, to the store, I’d be like, Oh, this lamp is cool. Mom, can I put it in my room? And I just, that was just who I was.

And so it’s always been a part of me, you know, I went to art school, so I’ve always identified as being an artist. You know, to the dismay of my mom, I did not want to go right into business school.

Cara Newhart: [00:12:26] right.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:12:27] But I did end up doing that, but, you know I went to art school and then I really got involved with like charcoal drawings, which you’ll see, you know, now are part of my gallery walls.

And I learned about sort of the fundamentals, but it was always a part of me. And, but then I also have, and you’ll see that I think reflected in my personal style, which is I have this very logical sort of, sort of grounded approach to kind of. Keeping things simple and clean, but then throwing in that artsy side and sort of the struggle I’ve always had is like, how do I have a grownup home that doesn’t look, you know, cluttered with just like all kinds of crazy artwork on the wall, right?

Cara Newhart: [00:13:08] Right, right. 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:13:09] But you know, I think it’s always been something that I’ve been developing over time. So. When I got to this home and I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase for the first time. I was like, what do I want this home to be?

And what do I want it to look like? And it was simple for me, you know, I wanted it to be calm and relaxing foundation. You know, I wanted clean white walls so that my artwork and the accents that I throw in will pop. But I wanted to feel grown up and adult and slightly masculine in the way that I have, you know, lots of black, you know, I’ve 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:13:45] got walls, I’ve 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:13:47] got 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:13:47] like black vases and I 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:13:50] have really muted kind of background elements.

And then on top of that, I really wanted to layer in old. And so many people told me, well, it’s going to look like grandma. You know, you can’t do yellow, you can’t do yellow. It’s crazy. And I decided I can do it. And I think the way that you can do it is by starting with the clean foundation and then find perfectly curated pieces from thrift stores and garage sales and Facebook marketplace and layer them in.

And I’ll tell you what it works. And I love it. And I just. I’m obsessed. 

Cara Newhart: [00:14:29] I love that so much because what I hear emerging as a theme is like, when you are trying to do a bold color in your space, so many people are always asking me, like, how do I, you know, Do a bold color, do a bright color like yellow without it looking like a kindergarten classroom. And I think the trick that you just hit right on the head is that you have to like own it.

And there has to be that intentionality behind it and also some way for your space to feel grounded. So you’ve done that through like masculine, black, and then having these interesting pieces that you’ve thrifted to really give it context. So it doesn’t feel playful. It feels bold and like full of personality, but not like this.

Overly playful, ungrounded, like fun color, just happening all over the place.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:15:16] Yeah, Cara, you totally 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:15:17] nailed it. Oh my gosh. Thank you for summarizing that. No, that’s definitely it, you know, and it’s a little bit hard to articulate, right. But

Cara Newhart: [00:15:24] It

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:15:24] I think I love that you said intentional because that really what it is. And that’s like the best design for me. Like when I style places.

But, you know, when I, if I put a bulb of garlic in a wooden bowl, and that is my centerpiece on my coffee table, as long as it looks intentional, as long as it doesn’t look kind of haphazard, it can be a work of art. And that’s what I’m telling people all the time in this amazing community, that you’re a part of that I’m a part of when people are like, how did you make a sweet potato look beautiful? It’s intentional guys. It’s intentional. It’s in specific bowl that has, you know, not too much clutter around it. It’s become a focal point in it. . One thing to tell people a lot is when you place something vintage and old and you have it right next to something black or white, if that is the highest contrast point in your room, your eyes going to jump to that.

And I just create those moments all across my house so that you’re jumping from a piece of art to the centerpiece and your eyes moving around. And what I tell people on the blog too, it’s like, that’s creating a dance and that’s interesting. And I love it. And it’s my favorite thinker. I get so excited about that

Cara Newhart: [00:16:33] gosh. Well, you’re so good at it. It’s like one of your core skills I feel like, but I love that you called it a dance because it is that like visual journey through your space, but it’s like the sense of like activeness in style is what makes it really good. Cause it’s not that staged look or that like magazine everything.

Perfect. Look, it’s the active lived in look while still feeling like, so. So up-leveled I guess is the good way to put it.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:17:00] Yeah, no, I super appreciate that. And you know, I think when you said that it reminded me of one other thing that I say a lot to people, because I get asked a lot about shelf styling, which, Oh 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:17:09] my if I could 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:17:10] style a shelf all day, every day, That’s what I would do. I love it so much that in gallery

Cara Newhart: [00:17:15] that. Yeah. Oh

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:17:16] but the way that we talked about the intentionality and that dance and look, look at us, creating a tango right now is it’s negative space.

You know,  

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:17:27] when I style a shelf it’s like 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:17:29] create that vocal point. Don’t be afraid to just put two or three things on a shelf and let something next to it. Be blank. Because it lets it read, you know, it lets it read and your eye will dance between each of those vignettes. So yeah, that’s what I tell people.

Cara Newhart: [00:17:45] That is such a good tip because people, I think it’s a lot of times design gets overly focused on what to add, what to put on versus what to subs subtract and where to create space for like your Ida to rest for there to be visual, empty space so that it’s not too much. And for things to really stick out, like giving elements space around it so they can have their own moment and like their own little spot to shine.

So that’s a really, really good, good tip to help people that you know, are really struggling with shelves and with things looking too cluttered, I think, especially.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:18:22] Oh, you nailed it. I get, I think there’s so much pressure on all of us to okay. If I want a room to feel great. If I want it to look amazing, I want it to look like Anthony’s home at one 36 home. They’re like, what else can I buy to fill every space? And I often say, actually, Just look around what’s in your home and maybe take stuff away and make intentional moments with the things that you have and swap it out.

When you get that urge, you don’t have to always just replay keep adding. You can just swap things. So yeah, you got it.

Cara Newhart: [00:18:53] I love that. And, and kind of tying back into your journey, I feel like I’ve saw a lot of parallels in my story where I was the girl that like was rearranging her room all the time. I would go steal colors out of our shed and like painted my walls. And it’s so funny because like, when people would ask me how I got into DIY, like.

I only kind of remembered the recent history of like, when I really decided to do it as a content creator, but it’s been a piece of my whole life in the sense that I was raised to like, be very creative, raised, to like experiment with different things, like different projects  I love the piece of like experimentation. And I feel like for so many people learning to find their style, it’s almost like they just haven’t had.

Given themself that time to experiment. Whereas some of us have like done it all throughout our life and not realized it. So I think if people can step into that mindset of experimentation and looking at it as a journey, that’s when you, like , can give yourself grace and realizing it’s a process to get to where you’re going with your style.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:19:58] Oh, absolutely. Kara and I think you’re so right. And I think that’s what I love about being able to share what I do is because when there’s people like you and I, that were fortunate enough to be able to be in a situation where we could go to art school and co and you know, it could also go to business.

Well, I didn’t know. We had that in common. Look at us

Cara Newhart: [00:20:14] know, look at

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:20:15] wonder.

Cara Newhart: [00:20:16] right there. It is.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:20:19] I bet you’re an amazing person, but I would say We just had that time. And I think, you know, sometimes people get really hard on themselves and I’ll get a message and people are like, Oh, I just, I can’t get my home to look like yours.

And I say, you know what, be patient with it and, you know, give yourself time. And, and, and I say a lot about curating your home over time. There’s so much pressure for all of us to. Make our homes instant and beautiful over time. But I tell people I’ve been collecting art for my room, for, and for my hallway for over a year.

And it’s still changing, you know have fun with it, cause it really is the journey, not the destination. And yeah, and sometimes we know there’s people that have had a little bit more time with it. So don’t always compare because that’s a, that’s a slippery slope and you know, you know how that goes.

Cara Newhart: [00:21:05] Yeah, no, that’s a beautiful point. Cause maybe you haven’t had time cause you haven’t. Like decided to give yourself that time, or maybe you just, weren’t fortunate enough to have like empty space in your schedule for whatever reason to be able to dedicate. So. Yeah, not comparing.

That’s like the huge, the huge thing that I think changes your game when you can let go of that, which is so hard, especially cause you’re looking at inspo, but we could talk a little bit about kind of some of the through lines and how to create that dance and create, you know, giving yourself a journey through the space versus like drawing your eye into one specific location.

So you mentioned like doing that with color. Is there any other tips you have for kind of creating. Cohesive spaces and mastering kind of that mixing and matching balance. So everything’s not matchy matchy, and then it’s not too mixed.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:21:58] Yeah, that’s a great question. You know, and it’s a little bit of, it’s a little bit of just intention, right?   I think one of the things that you mentioned at the top of the call was that, you know, You see that pop of color throughout all of my spaces. So I, I think there are a couple of foundational elements that are really help set you up for success.

I hope these don’t come across as too boring because you know what, I’ll share them anyway, because I think they’re, they’re just the right ones and   for me personally, it was having a clean, consistent slate with my walls. All of my walls are Chantilly lace white, which is my favorite white.

All of my doors are tricorn black. Right? Every single one of my window frames are black. We painted them all black. All of my door hardware is brass and crystal. Right. Which by the way, is such a great pro tip. Like if you’re looking for an instant upgrade yeah. Paint your door and change the hardware, you can do it in a day and it makes such the difference.

So for me, You know, it’s not to say that you can’t have a big, bold, colorful wall and different colors and different rooms, but just as a general rule of thumb, that helps me keep the space consistent. And then I would say for me,  probably I would say the second step is.

Keeping in sort of a similar vibe, which to me means like a moody color palette for your art, all of my art while it’s all different in different, different frames and different subject matter. It’s these inky Juul tones, they’re these kind of muddy Browns, muddy greens you know, Darker inky tone. So the art also from room to room really feels consistent, although it’s very interesting, right?

So I feel like that’s really great. So when you’re in my hallway and you’re in the gallery wall in the hallway, and then you step into my living room while we go for more of a. A yellow to a more mossy green. The artwork is still carrying those colors all the way through. And I think that’s really helpful.

Cara Newhart: [00:24:02] Yes. That’s a really good point. Cause I think that’s something that goes kind of unthought of in a lot of people’s design plan is you think of the room you think of standing at the door, taking a picture of that space and how will things look cohesive? But the through line of like sight lines from one space to another, or as you’re walking.

Through, you know, different rooms, how do they tie together, but still have their own kind of personality? Or how can you change the vibe, but still have things feel cohesive. And it is through elements like art, where it’s like you have consistency throughout the space and then variety in like the color palette or whatever that looks like.

So that’s a really good, really good thought there.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:24:44] Oh, good. I’m glad that you think so. And I think the other thing that I was 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:24:47] thinking about Cara, while you 

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:24:48] were talking, was that the other way that I really do that is, you know, I’m such a sucker for a vintage book and w and, and any vintage items that are Walnut. So you’ll see consistently through my home is that I place vintage books very strategically.

I mean, nothing, first of all, smells better than a vintage book. It’s just, it’s such the coolest smell and those. W Warren pages. And if you place them next to your fireplace, and I have an open book of poetry on my kitchen table that you see when you’re in that living room, but you just talked about, which is Sightlines, which I love that.

That is the first thing you see when you walk in is the living room and that sight line. So you’ll see that there’s a vintage books in each room. And then, you know, the woods that I use, I often try to just keep Walnut woods throughout the house. I think Walnut is sort of this rich Brown, and I think it kind of ties everything together.

And then of course, don’t forget, we’ve got that black. So you’ve got a real matte black consistency throughout the house as well.

Cara Newhart: [00:25:52] That’s so helpful because I think what I really wanted to do with this episode is have people be able to go to your Instagram and see your style, but then really tune in here to like see the thought process behind it. Cause I think there’s one thing to be said about having an inspo image and being like, wow, I love that.

But really hearing the strategy behind it. Is kind of how you really truly help people, you know, take what they need, have it for their own style and that like show showcase that thought process. So I’m loving these tips in the, in the way you’re breaking it down. I think it’s going to be so helpful for people to see this process.

But what, one of the things I love about your style is your talent for thrifting, because I think. there’s so many elements of like finding gems, sustainability, being able to replace things and swap things out without spending too much money.

Do you have kind of like a. Just a thrifting strategy in general for your space and maybe some tips for how you really find those pieces that fit your space, but also that are like maybe high quality or interesting. Cause there is a lot of junk you have to sift through sometimes they’re stars.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:27:03] Oh man. Do I love this question? I could talk about it all day and yes, I absolutely do. And you know what? There’s no magic here. Let’s just, let’s dive in. Okay. So I’m with you. Let’s just first and foremost, you know, the thing about thrifting, you know, my mom was, she was like, I will, she will not go into thrift store with me because she’s like, Oh, I just it’s junk.

And I’m like, no mom. And I’ve converted her. So if I can convert my mom, I can convert anyone. my favorite thing to say to people when they reach out to me is everything you saw in this corner on this shelf is thrifted except one thing. And people are like, you have to be kidding me. And I’m like, no, it’s 100%.

And let me explain to you my strategy. Okay. So first and foremost I keep a list on my phone and it’s literally just. If I’m out walking echo, who’s my dog. Or you’ll see my Instagram stories a lot. If I’m out walking or I’m at the grocery store or I’m working through the day and I’m like, Oh, you know what I would love to have in this spot, a small side table, I will write it down.

And I will. I keep a measuring tape on my key chain, not one of those big bulky ones. You know, I keep that little sewing

Cara Newhart: [00:28:19] no baby one.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:28:20] the little baby one. Yeah. And I measure it and I keep it with me at all times. Okay. So I keep that on my keys, but then I’m like, Oh, you know what else? I would really love like a little small lamp.

Like I need a small lamp just right here. And so I just keep a constant list. In my phone and I keep the dimensions because the worst thing is if you’re anything like me, Kara, I get distracted very easily. Maybe it’s less common. Yeah. I’ll walk into a thrift store or a, you know, a brick and mortar and be like, Oh my gosh, I love this and this.

And I’ll forget a, what I want to get. And B you know what, I love this, but is it even big enough? And you only have to make the mistake once of buying something that is just way the wrong size. So. That’s the worst. So first and foremost, I keep a list. Okay. And then within that list, I always kind of, it’s a need versus a want, you know, I think you have to always be honest with yourself about what a need and a want is.

I need to get a bed in here is different than I want a scallop lamp made of concrete. You know, that’s a little different.

Cara Newhart: [00:29:22] Yes,

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:29:24] The next one, I always tell people is timing. So. I would always say, know your local thrift, right?

Know what day they get stuff, you know, what else? Make friends with them, not opportunistically, but you know what? Talk to them, get to know people because a drifting is an amazing community and I’ve met some of the coolest people at thrift stores and through Facebook marketplace And some of them, I still talk to, but you know what, they’ll let you know that list that we talked about.

Kara. Like if they know you’re looking for a vintage, you know rug, that’s eight by 10. That is in this, Oh, I don’t know. Muti muddy colors, like mosques green.  And you give them your phone number. They don’t want to have to put it out on the floor and all that. They’ll give you a call if you’re polite and you know what, bring them a coffee.

They’ll love ya.

Cara Newhart: [00:30:15] Right. You make their job easier when you do that. That’s a magic tip for sure. Because everybody wins. Yeah.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:30:20] Absolutely. And, and, you know, there are days there’ll be like you don’t, we get this stuff on Tuesdays. So just know when to go. And I say that applies for thrift stores. I would say it applies for you know, like regular swap meets or things like that.

Cara Newhart: [00:30:34] I love this. Cause I feel like we just kind of dove deeper than some surface level of dice that is out there. I think, you know, you hear like, Oh no, your store’s schedule. Like when they put out new things, but knowing the people and like having that list is like, that’s totally the hack because I think a lot of people approach thrifting of like, Oh, I’ll just go and just see what there is, because it’s definitely not like.

Items that are, you know, there’s 10 of them and they come in five colors and you have all these options. You really have to be consistently plugged in to find things that are a fit versus like going once. You’re going to get frustrated because they don’t have what you’re looking for, but that running list and that ideas in the back of your mind of how you’re curating your home, you’re going in with a plan.

And then you can really find pieces that. Fit your plan versus trying to find something that could be kind of cool. That looks cool at the store, and then you bring it home and it’s not a fit and it’s not cohesive. So yeah, planning, but keeping it simple and just having it on your phone and just when you think of it kind of like just infusing it into your life and your schedule, it feels like the best way to do it.

I really love that approach.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:31:43] Absolutely care. And you said it earlier, it’s just being a little bit strategic about it. And you know, when I talk about these things, And like, I try to give advice to people like, you know, through the Instagram or the blog or whatever, I think about like, what do I wish someone would have told me prior, you know, and I think that’s really important, So plan, you know, and go early. I say, go early. If you come later on a date, the good stuff has gone. And you know what, when you get to a thrift store, I do one giant lap, right? I do a lap just to make sure that I can see everything.

And I know what it is. I throw everything in my car that I just there’s a brass candlestick. I love it. That’s on my list. I always start with the art because. I mean, art is always the thing that I’m never going to never have enough, like always say, Oh, you know, pull back, pull back. Don’t put stuff back art.

If I, if it’s good art, I’m buying.

Cara Newhart: [00:32:33] Right, right,

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:32:35] Because you can use the frame. You don’t have to even like the art on the inside of it. You can remove that. You can, you know, DIY the frame with some rubbing boss, you know, I, I know that’s kind of a hack, everyone knows. But yeah, I would say plan look all the way through the store first.

And then, you know, let’s just make sure that you’re looking for the materials that you really love. Cause you’re right. There are, there is junk and that’s just the way that it is. But. Start to look for things that are high quality, you know, Walnut wood that doesn’t have a sheen on it. Brass is actually real brass and, you know, don’t be afraid to Google stuff when you’re standing there, you know, Google it and see if you can find it at what it is.

If there’s a value to it as well. Look for, you know, frames that match that vibe and that tone and that you’re looking for and go from there. But there’s one little tip that I always tell people too, which is. Once the endorphins are slowing down coffee,  Greenwich, the caffeine has sort of gone through your system.

If you, if you’re a coffee drinker, I take my car. I’m not even joking here. I’m the weirdo that will sit on the sofa in the back. I will sit in front of my car and I will just look at each item for just 10 seconds. Is it on my list? Is it a need versus a want? Okay. And there will be something that you’re like, this is just such a great fun.

I can’t believe I found it put, and then I put some things back. Right. and then I get up there and I, you know, talk to the person and I check out and then, you know, I’ll say, Hey Susan, you know, my thrift store, they have a sticky note next to the register with my name on it. You know,

Cara Newhart: [00:34:15] love this so much. Yeah.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:34:16] Yeah, if you ever see, I am so hunting for a white stone ceramic base. right. If you see one, let me, I’m just like, okay. And then, you know, also I would say, don’t forget there’s newsletters and discounts. Some days they give discounts and if you sign up for their newsletter, you’ll get 50% off. So that’s how I approached their thing.

Cara Newhart: [00:34:35] I like that tip of like reassessing before you check out, like taking a breath, because I think I, as someone who loves shopping get, gets caught up in shopping as an activity. And so the pieces are like, I’m very excited about them. And then it’s like, let’s just reassess, like how I’m bringing this into my space and give like a second more thought to that process.

And kind of step out of the store for a minute, almost just look at each item, like. Where’s this going to fit in my house. How is it going to fit? Where is it on my list? That’s such a good tip because then you’re not like just being swept away by the thrill of the hunt and just like, Oh my gosh, it’s $5.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:35:12] And we all do that. We all do that, but I’ll tell you what, the more times that I brought things home, I’m like, you know what, maybe I won’t quite use that. It’s that it’s like, I didn’t really love it. But if I take that time, you’ll bring more things into your home that your love. And while I love to thrift, and I love curating stuff over time, and Lord knows I’ve got a garage full of stuff.

But the stuff that I really want when I’ve taken that moment has made it onto my walls and my shelves a lot more successfully.

Cara Newhart: [00:35:39] I love that so much. Okay. So we now have strategies for cohesiveness and how to bring things into your home intentionally. Do you have any tips for kind of like that mix of old and new, because obviously the right thrifted pieces are going to look amazing and up-leveled in your space, not like it’s on, you know, a thrift store shelf with way too many things going on.

But what are some tips for balancing? Like when do you treat yourself to new stuff? When do you look for new stuff? That’s maybe more modern that maybe even, you know, you can’t find thrifting. And how do you, how do you balance that?

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:36:16] That’s a great question. And one thing that I talk about a lot is. Old and new and when to splurge. Right. There are going to be certain times when you know, you’re not going to be able to maybe want to.

Thrift your bed, right? Like, let’s do that as an example. I’m going. Cause that’s what I did in my home. You know? I had a very specific space that was super difficult. You know, we have a soffit that runs at the base of our floor in our bedrooms. So a typical four poster bed, you know, the Pope, the back poster board the back legs, excuse me of the bed.

Had to be like, you know, cut at the bottom to spit on top of the soffit so that we weren’t going to like eat until yeah. Right. So you just have to know when is the right time to splurge and potentially outsource or work with another professional carpenter or upholstery or person, or go to a out of the box store or even work with another designer who has the expertise that maybe you don’t.

Cara Newhart: [00:37:15] Right.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:37:16] and you just got to know. Well, let me back up, start with your budget. You know, there’s nothing more freeing. I know it sounds Cleary, but when you have a budget, you can navigate it strategically. Cause I think that’s a theme that I hear a lot from us today. Kara is if you approach it strategically versus just running into a room and you know, you’ve got a thousand dollars really only to do this room with this, that it’s going to really focus you on where you can and cannot spend your money.

Right. So maybe you want to invest in the bed out of a box store, but those gold pillows that everyone loves so much of my bed girl, those are from target. And I will send you a link all day, every day, because they are the best and they were super affordable, but the bed was an investment. And I worked with a You know, with a craftsman that was able to make the bed for us in a way that would fit into our room.

And for us, it was worth spending that a little bit extra money because it’s a piece that is important in our home and everything else we were able to do on a budget. So you just got to know when and where you want to invest that. 

Cara Newhart: [00:38:28] And it’s like, if things are going to be an investment or if there’s something that needs to be custom, I think that’s the easy, like that’s where we spend the money on new stuff. And then try to thrift the rest, or if there’s something that’s affordable, like the target pillows, then that is the perfect choice too.

So I like thinking of that balance and the strategy, like the balance really is in the strategy. It’s not like 50, 50 or 80, 20. It’s like thinking about your space and what you need and the budget, which sounds no fun. Like when you say the word budget, you’re like, Oh, but really it does create that space and that structure for you to like, You know, create the space you want and then not have regrets because I know when I don’t make a budget, I go all out and then I regret spending way too much money.


Anthony Rodriguez: [00:39:19] And you know what, we’ve all done it, you know, or you’re like in target and you’re like, I’ve got to have these pictures and I’ve got to have, and you’re like, wait, no, that probably wasn’t the best use of the $50, you know? So but you know what, you also got to be gracious with yourself sometimes, you know, like you just gotta throw caution to the wind to have a little bit of fun every now and then, but if you can mix it up, maybe mix it up, like with your old, a new ratios, you’ll get it just right.

You know, and there’s areas where. You’ll want us to protect that? Like maybe it’s the bed, you know, maybe for us, it was the recliner in our living room, you know, I was like, Oh, recorder, no, I’m not going to put a recliner in there.  But I put a recliner in there and we had to spend, but my rug is a really affordable rug from Amazon.

And the nightstand is an old vintage trunk that I got on Facebook marketplace for $40. But it’s, you know, a couple of thousand dollar piece next to a $40 nightstand and it’s all in the same room. And I’m so proud about that. About my own.

Cara Newhart: [00:40:14] Oh, yeah, no, that’s exactly how to do it. Cause that’s really what takes like the thought and the art of it. And the design of it is like, That balance, where you get a space that looks like everything was expensive when really you only invested in like some key pieces. But something that came to mind when we were talking about like being at target and just like, Oh my gosh, I want all of it.

Um,  I guess just thinking about like how different stores you have different challenges when shopping. So like when you’re thrifting. Your challenge is that you have to really imagine something that may look like junk next to all its junkie friends in your space looking chic. And so that’s the challenge there.

And then target it’s like they have these collections where everything looks cohesive. So it’s like, I always want to buy pieces. Right. Because it looks cohesive on the shelf and I bring it home and then it doesn’t fit with my style. So it’s like you have the opposite problem at target versus thrift stores.

So that’s, I guess where your list comes back in, but that’s just a thought that popped to mind that I’d never really realized about my shopping habits.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:41:19] Yeah. I appreciate you sharing. No, I love that about you, Carrie. You’re always so honest. I would say. Okay, let me just offer one piece of advice that I would say, you know is one thing I do is I have you talking about inspo a lot, right. And that can get that’s great to your point, but it also can get overwhelming.

I just have one picture that I always referenced back to. Like I literally have it on my phone. And it’s a picture of why it’s a white wall with a vintage chair with an alcove that has a gilded. Framing it a distressed piece of pottery and a black sort of a piece of sculpture when I’m standing at target.

I’m not even joking again, I’m the weird that will sit in the back of a thrift or I’m the one at target with my phone. I just look at it because I don’t trust my excitement. You know, I don’t trust, you know, I get so excited about so many things and that’s a great trait to have, but the way that I ground my feet is I hold up that picture to it.

Does it go with this? Does it fit in this vibe? And if you can find that one picture for you that makes your heart sing and you feel like it, it defines your style for me, all the new black and brass, a pop of gold, you know, like if it can work with that in any way, material shape. Color then I give myself the okay.

To consider bringing it home, but you’re right. You’ll stand in that curated section of target or Creighton barrel and be like, Oh, this is so beautiful, but that might not be the reality of your home. So.

Cara Newhart: [00:42:52] That’s just kind of like a really good strategy from like a true artist is that you can like respect things for their beauty and not have to have them be yours. Like you can look at items and be like, that is amazing. That is beautiful. This whole vibe is amazing, but it’s not the vibe I’ve chosen for my house and therefore we’re not bringing it home.

So that’s a really, really good tip.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:43:13] Well, and that’s like, On my Instagram, I’ll always share a couple people’s work on my, in my stories that I love. And I always tell people, Hey guys, this isn’t necessarily what I would do in my home, but I can just respect it so much. So I feed that craving too, for other styles, I just looking at it and sharing it.

And sometimes that’s enough.

Cara Newhart: [00:43:33] Totally. Yeah, I like that so much because I think people like don’t, haven’t had that clearly defined line between, I love that and I love that for you or for this situation. And I love that and I love that from my home. So a lot of times, like I loving things, there’s like, They ha they don’t have that definition.

And that’s really the line. That’s like the border of defining your personal style in your home. And so once you can master that, then so magical.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:44:03] Oh, good. I hope that was helpful. That’s

Cara Newhart: [00:44:05] No, that is that’s. I think, I think that’s a really good, like mental image to have for people to, I feel like that a lot of people will be empowered by the idea that like you’re allowed to love something and be excited about it.

And it. At the same time is not for you. Like, that’s totally like a piece of respecting design in becoming an artist of your own house. So I like

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:44:27] So lately, or it’s just not this season of life that your home is in right now, you know, maybe that’s your next home or, you know what, maybe  you can take elements from it that would fit into your house. You just got to think about it intentionally,

Cara Newhart: [00:44:39] Absolutely like in a world where inspo is everywhere and we have every image at our fingertips. It’s totally now becoming about like curation and navigating that. And so I hope people are feeling inspired to get good at that for themselves. So that’s really good.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:44:54] Oh, me too. I love it.

Cara Newhart: [00:44:55] Okay. So you have recently started a power tool journey.

So I want to dive into that and just kind of like how you’ve approached it. Maybe some beginner tips and if you’ve had any like challenges along the way that like looking back, you’d be like, I wish somebody would have told me, like, I wish Kara would have told me X, Y, Z.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:45:15] yeah, that’s a great question. Well, first of all, Kara, you know, you were the person, you know, that inspired me to really. You know, you were living with one of the first people that I heard through your podcast. When I started my journey with my home, that like, someone’s like, do not be afraid of power tools.

Like I almost felt like power tools were for somebody else. You know, I’m not the most rough and tumble male, you know, I don’t you know, get out and fix a motorcycle, you know, I’m not that guy. So I felt like power tools were maybe too much for me and that Brinkley scared, but you know what. They’re not.

And when you kind of talked about it, I said, you know what? I think it was you that mentioned, or that was like, what is a good thing to start with? You know? And you had sort of a list. And for me it was. The miter box and saw which isn’t necessarily a power tool, but it started me there and I’ll get going.

And I was like, let me just use a stop. Let me do this myself. If I’m too intimidated to start with a table saw, you know? So I started with that and I put up my very own box molding. And I did it all on stories and I did it all by hand, but I think it was about how do you start something approachable?

And this is such a good. Point care. It’s like, you’ll see a finished room on Instagram. It’s like, Oh my gosh, I need that. I need to start there. We’ll break it up into small chunks. Maybe just start with, how do I style my nightstand? And this is what happened with power tools for me, which was, you said start something small and approachable.

It’s the Microsoft started with it. Okay. I can do it. Okay. I’m a F and then it was like, Oh, well use the gut, the your brand nailer, you know, and I’ll tell you what I was hooked after I used my nail gun.

Cara Newhart: [00:47:03] Always gets you it’s like the, the noise and that you feel so powerful. Like that tool specifically gives you like a certain sense of accomplishment that is addictive.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:47:13] Honestly, I’ve storied right after I finished. And I was like, adrenaline rush, you know, it was so amazing. And I want all my followers. I want everyone to feel that and if I can do it, you can do it. And so I started using the nail gun. Right. And then, you know, I just started going from there, you know, and now I think.

Feel more confident, you know, I’m going to start doing some carpentry for the first time, you know, and I have stuff on the way and you just gotta take it off, like everything in life, one foot in front of the other and start somewhere that’s comfortable. And also just know that it’s always going to be a little bit scary.

There’s no, you know, if it’s not scary, you’re not learning. You’re not growing, you know? So,

Cara Newhart: [00:47:54] right. Oh my gosh. So true. That’s like the quote that Jesse and I put in the box is feel the fear and do it anyway. And I think I’ve been trying to teach people that line between like, you know, a healthy fear of the fact that it is a tool and it is dangerous if you don’t use it safely, but like, you need to be able to not be fearful.

Of trying something new and of trusting yourself to learn. That’s the fear and the mindset stuff that I’m like on a mission to help people overcome. So I just love hearing your story and how you’ve navigated that. It’s like, it makes me so happy and so honored. I got to be

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:48:31] honestly carry your. Your words, like your voice hearing that help me, you know I was just like, yeah, why am I doing this to myself? Why am I telling? So I have to have the home Depot cut every single piece of wood. why do I feel like that’s the case? No, I couldn’t do this. And you’re right though.

Be safe. Make sure that you check everything safety first, but start comfortable and go from there. Nobody became, no one becomes a master athlete out of the gate. They start by picking up. That baseball bat for the first time and learning how to swim.

Cara Newhart: [00:49:04] Oh, my gosh. So true. And yeah, but that’s exactly where I started. I would plan stuff out. They would cut all the wood. And finally, I just got tired of standing there for 30 minutes having this poor sweet, retired man cut on my wood. I was like, you know what? I need to be able to do this. So I’m going to learn.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:49:22] Well, and when you see amazing strong women like you and Jessie and other, you know, people. Doing it and showing the way it makes it a lot easier.

Cara Newhart: [00:49:32] Oh, my gosh. You’re too kind. You’re really encouraging me. This is making me feel so good. Energized. I’m so lucky.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:49:39] no, absolutely. Yeah.

Cara Newhart: [00:49:41] Okay. Everyone’s going to have to follow you and follow along. So where can they find you on Instagram to check it out?

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:49:47] Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you can find me at the numbers. One, three, six home. So one, three, six home on Instagram. I’m also, that’s where I am in the blog. Two, one, three six

Cara Newhart: [00:49:59] Yeah. Okay. So everyone go follow Anthony, go follow along with the powder bath. That’s coming up. I’m so excited. But, yeah. Okay. This conversation was so, so good. So thank you.

Anthony Rodriguez: [00:50:10] Oh my gosh. Carrie, are you kidding me? I love this. This was so much fun. And I really do hope it’s helpful for everyone. I mean, You know, we’ve put the blood, sweat and tears and let us help you guys kind of learn some, some of what we’ve done.

And I just, nothing makes me happier than sharing this stuff. And that’s why I do it and connecting with awesome people like you. This community is so great and it’s been so wonderful and I had so much fun. I could do this all day. Okay. 



Cara Newhart: [00:50:41] Hashtag obsessed. 

 This week, I’m obsessed with my door handles. I just changed all the hardware in my house from builder grade knobs. To these gold, modern lovers that are beautiful. I love them so much. It was a fun reminder that, you know, the small things can really make a difference when it comes to the vibe of this space.

And I feel like door handles are. Obviously such a small item, but they can really go so far to help things look polished and cohesive and amazing. So I shared this process on my Instagram of how I did it. There’s like a fun little video. If I like bippity boppity, boop. The handles, we took way longer than that.

Cause they have like 22 doors. But if you want to go catch up on the process, you can check my highlight bubble. Or I actually made a couple YouTube videos to help you. So if you’re interested in swapping out your knobs, you can feel guided because I know I felt like a little lost at first. I didn’t know what to pick.

I wasn’t sure how to change a door handle. So I made one video all about how to choose your hardware. And I break down some of the things to consider, including like deciding between a knob and a lever, some of the design elements, some of the finishes. So I think that’s really helpful. And then the second video shows you how to actually install hardware.

Step-by-step. So if you’re thinking about switching your door knobs, You can get the full step-by-step process. You can watch this after, as you go or even before to see if it’s something that feels like a fit for your skill level and something you can be confident tackling. So I will link those two videos up in the description in the show notes.

And you should go check out my hardware and tell me what you think. I’m really excited about the new look.



Time to talk trends.

So in last week’s episode, we’ve talked about some of the home trends that I saw at the Las Vegas market, which is a market open to trade only. So like interior designers and people that own like. Furnishing stores. So you go and you get to see all these different brands, all their different offerings. So it’s like products that you would as a designer, be able to offer your clients or as a store owner, be able to sell like retail in your store.

So it’s items that you actually don’t get access to as a regular person yet. A lot of times they’re picked up by like boutiques or even box stores like Wayfair. So you might get access to them at some point, but it was really helpful because. We saw like a ton of home trends. So I was talking about all the different things that were kind of on trend that you might want to look into that I saw, but this week I wanted to kind of cover color more specifically.

So the colors that are kind of trending and it’s so funny that colors are like trending because I feel like so much of our conversation around color as a society is like, what’s your favorite color? What color makes you feel. This way, and then there’s like colors that trend. So that’s just comical to me that we don’t always just pick what we love, but again, it’s another way to explore and try on something.

So the first trend that I saw was this neutral and creamy white. So pairing that with like natural tones, like wood tones or Browns is kind of like the front runner for spaces in terms of trends like that was. Everywhere. There was like neutral, creamy furniture, neutral walls with like, Different kinds of accents.

But then we also saw like a bunch of mixing in, of pops of color into this. So it’s not just about like that light and airy look. It’s also about adding color, but I noticed that the color was very muted, color palettes. So not like bright, rainbow, crazy it’s colors that are very grayed out and muted.

Which means you get color, but it’s a very like subtle look and a more like moody feel. We talked about this a little bit with Brian and the episode with him. He’s the editor of do it yourself magazine or talking about specifically farmhouse trends and how like adding in colors kind of the next phase of farmhouse.

Cause we’ve done this whole like white. Everything situation. But I’m seeing that on the modern side too. So modern contemporary decor had the same sort of trend going on just with different furniture. Like instead of, you know, chippy paint, it was like these modern, sleek pieces. We talked about the couches being like organic shaped.

Being shaved on that kind of stuff. So muted, color palettes. And then in terms of specific colors, warm colors were kind of at the front. So mustard, yellows, and oranges burnt oranges, or like everywhere. As well as like this muted, medium blue kept popping up, which we talked about with Brian too. It’s just kind of like a classic.

Middle ground blue, but then it’s got a little bit of gray to it. So very classic. But yeah, Anthony is totally rocking the mustard yellows in his house. He has like a black and white, very clean. Kind of background within these pops of like mustard, yellow, everywhere. So he’s totally on trend in terms of, but I saw the Vegas market, but those are kind of the color trends.

So if you’re wanting to experiment with color, I always recommend going muted. That’s been my style forever is kind of to avoid those bright, really true hue, saturated colors. I think they look really playful, kind of like a kindergarten classroom. So if you want color, get those muted tones and you’ll have a polished look.


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