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013: Decorating with Plants: Why you’re doing it wrong + How to raise plants that thrive with Paige Briscoe

Plants are key for helping your space feel fresh and alive, but are you taking care of them like you should? Whether you're a plant goddess or a reformed plant killer, this one's for you.

We dive into houseplant tips, some great plants to start with or add to your home, how plants foster a connection with nature and help us with self care, and some other amazing tips & tricks. You'll leave this episode feeling grounded and encouraged about your plant parenthood journey.

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Hello! I’m Paige, the plant (daddy) behind ReRoot. ReRoot began with an urge to re-connect people to nature by creating immersive, mossy, dreamy art installations and sprouted into a retail shop, pretty much overnight. Since day one we’ve continued to develop new roots and grow new leaves and become not only a retail store but a botanical creative collective, filled with all things green. It’s never truly been about buying and selling plants as it is about our special relationship with them. We strive to be stewards of the earth and nurture people as they find their connection with nature, or should I say, ReRoot into nature. Visit us inside the retail collective, Modern Nomad until January 2020 when we move into our very own brick and mortar, 4 blocks north of the MN warehouse.

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Shower bundles —  a plant bouquet with the ends tied together.

You secure it behind the shower head out of the direct stream of water. The herbs and botanicals interact with the heat and steam of the shower and release aromatherepudic smells to help you feel relaxed and revitalized

Also, its just super freaking gorgeous — hello bougee shower

Paige makes shower bundles monthly, so the one right now has eucalyptus and different florals like rose and lavender and for christmas she has one with evergreen.

They last up to about a month, and then after you can use it as a dried arrangement.

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stuff we just need to talk about

I killed a cactus! 😬

I know cacti are supposed to be a super easy maintenance plant — but yes, I killed one.

I loved it too much and overwatered it and it drowned.

Sharing this in the interest of honesty and also to encourage you on your plant parent journey. We're gonna learn and get this right at some point!

follow along with all my plant struggles — check out my IG highlight 

You can check out some of the other plants I've killed and/or am struggling with via my Instagram highlights.

I save them all to this highlight reel (lowlights reel, more likely 🙈) Hop over and give me a follow on instagram to stay in the loop.

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EP 13 TRANSCRIPT

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Cara: 00:00 You are listening to the MakeSpace podcast, episode number 13.

INTRO: 00:22 Hey, welcome to make space a home design show made to inspire you to create spaces you truly feel at home in Cara Newhart. Sits down with amazingly brilliant guests for conversations that dive deeper than pin-worthy rooms to tease out the essentials of creating spaces that feed your soul and inspire your creativity from home design strategies to decor. Advice to interior design, tips and tricks. These conversations help you dream up a beautifully lived in home. Cara is the designer and chief creative enthusiasts behind never skipped brunch. Her work has been featured in print publications like people style watch and Denver style magazine as an influencer. Cara has collaborated with brands like Amazon,H and M, Twitter and Thrillist. Here's your host, Cara Newhart.

Cara: 01:22 Hello, hello. And happy fall. Monday was the first day of fall, so we are officially three days in. Today's interview is especially positive. Um, as you all probably know, if you follow me on Instagram, um, I have had a struggle taking care of plants. I've been a terrible plant parent and honestly was kind of feeling like I had failed like most of my plants. To be fair, I've killed a lot of plants, but today's interview is just super encouraging for me, um, on my plant journey knowing that I can be, I'm a reformed plant killer and have plants that are thriving instead of just barely surviving for dear life. So today's interview is with Paige, of reroot gardens. She's basically a plant goddess. Um, her store is so, so cool, like just gorgeous. There's so many living plants, so many unique plants that I've never really seen before and she just has a really good perspective on bringing plants into your home and what that looks like beyond just using them as like a gorgeous decor element, which is something that I've been stuck in. So I got to collaborate with Paige on this really cool DIY workshop where I taught everyone how to build an outdoor planter. And then page helps everyone with plant selection and plant tips and all of that side of [inaudible]. So it was so cool because we got to do it in her space where the store is and I learned a ton about plants and I left feeling really grounded and really like energized.

Cara: 03:00 eyes. I feel like plants are so key for helping, um, your space fields fresh and alive. But a lot of us are not taking care of our Lance the way we should. So whether you are a plant goddess or a reformed plant killer or on your journey to becoming a reformed plant color, this one's for you. I hope this interview is super helpful. Well for you, um, whether you are needing some houses, plant one-on-one tips, are there, you want some plant recommendations or whether you really want to like, yeah, deep into like what it means to be a plant parent besides just like occasionally watering your plants. Yeah, she has a really cool perspective and she offers a lot, a lot of good tips. So let's dive into this interview because you guys are going love it.

Paige: 03:52 Hello?

Cara: 03:53 Hi, How are you?

Paige: 03:55 I'm good. How are you?

Cara: 03:56 Very good. Okay. I'm specifically excited for this episode because, well, in the past frankly failed at caring for plants. Yeah. Seeing your shop and seeing kind of all that you're doing is really inspirational because it was like really encouraging in terms of, you know, I could be better. I can.

Paige: 04:17 And there's, I mean there's definitely something to that for sure. About like us approaching houseplants and thinking like, Oh crap, I don't have a green thumb or I don't know where to start or all those kinds of like, uh, self-talk things that kind of pop into our head when we're approaching the houseplant world because I can be intimidating and there's lots of different plants and how to, in times when people like go to places, there's not a lot of information. So I really, you know, with our shop, it's very much honestly like other specific specialty has punt shops too.

Paige: 04:48 Like your, our point in our purpose is to really just kind of like show you that it's not this big serious thing and that we can take it late heartedly and that we kinda just like break it down so that you feel leaving confident with your new plant friend.

Cara: 05:01 Yeah, no seriously. I like it. Right. Buying plants at like [inaudible] home Depot or like lots of [inaudible] or Target even heard it there and I didn't know there was like really someone that was really invested in helping me succeed as much as you are, like you have such a good energy and I dunno, I feel like some people just own really cute stores and then there's other shop owners that are just so invested in their mission creating something amazing. And that's totally what I feel from you. So can you share like a little bit about your shop and how you became, really, a plant goddess?

Paige: 05:34 yeah. Um, a kind of, I mean it really did start passion driven from the very beginning. So I was doing, I mean I've been involved in the holder culture community for I would say like maybe seven years now, like serious and but like seriously, probably like four years, right? But I started bringing plants into my house seven years ago. And um, I started, I was like studying biology in college and I'm very much a creative person and I'm like, I need to fuel this creative passion of mine. How can I do that? And I just started doing art shows and I had a couple of friends who were like, Hey, we have this space. Like let's get you in here. And I had two art shows, the last one being in, um, the current spot that I'm in right now, which is modern nomad.

Paige: 06:26 It's this giant warehouse that houses multiples, small locally owned businesses. And I had my show up in front and it was basically just this all immersive nature experience where literally thing everything was covered in Moss. So like we had chairs that were covered in Moss tables, coffee cups, and then there was like this literal human form that looks just like a human covered in Moss too. And she was supposed to represent mother nature. And the idea behind that, and honestly the idea that really kind of seeded reroute was um, like Whoa. Like what would you say to mother nature is she could like, if you could have a conversation with her and it's all, it's all become like ever since that moment and like reading the responses was completely like just I have like no words. Like it was, it really, you could tell that it really hit home for a lot of people.

Paige: 07:27 And that's kind of why we started the shop because it was like, how can we connect people with nature in a way that, you know, hopefully when we bring these plants into our homes and the more plants we incorporate into our lives also helps us like see the outside world better and like connect to her more and be like, Hmm, maybe I shouldn't litter or maybe I should not use as much plastic or maybe I should watch my water intake or those certain things. Because I truly believe that like when we bring plants into our house, we're deepening that relationship with nature and in turn that's going to help us like by things like climate change, which is a very, very, very important topic. Um, and just kind of like care about nature more because we are so connected to it that we were literally born from nature.

Paige: 08:16 So it's like this thing where it's like, okay, let's, let's just like, let's talk about it and like, let's, let's build on this relationship. So, yeah, let's bring these plants into our house, but also like, let's care about what we're doing on a much deeper, deeper level. So that's really love all of that. Yeah. I mean that's really how this shop kind of came to be. And like you said, like you can tell that the plant or that the shop is very passion-driven because it is like the number one question that I had, like some people who ask me, we get questions all the time, like, how can I do what you do and, um, how did you do this and all this stuff. And I'm just like, you have to have incredible of passion in order to start your own business. Because if you don't, you are not only going to hit your business or you're gonna hate your life because you're going to be doing something that you just, you have no passion for us.

Paige: 09:05 So there's like, as soon as you walk into a space, you can kind of, like you said, you can tell like when someone is wanting to do something for the money or um, you know, do, so the idea of it versus totally. Totally. Yeah. So I mean, you've, you can feel it when you walk into our shop because that's literally, I mean, it really is just all about passion. I mean, nature really is just something that, man, I just, whew. She is like, that is my, I just want to help people to connect people with nature on like at such a deeper level. So.

Cara: 09:40 yeah. I love that. Yeah. So like, I personally have really struggled to keep plants alive

Paige: 09:45 and lots of people have, lots of people have, it's not just to you.

Cara: 09:50 Yeah. Anyone that follows me on my Instagram knows this. I have like a whole stories segment of just like my dead plan.

Paige: 09:57 There's no way. Yes, no, that's amazing. Like oftentimes, like let's talk about that for a second, right? Because oftentimes there's this idea like, Oh, like plants need to look perfect and our house plans always need to be pristine in our homes. But like the reality is, and this is true for even just out in nature, is that plants and nature is not perfect, right? Your plan is going to have a yellow leaf. It's going to get a dark Brown spy. It's going to look kind of droopy. Sometimes it's going to get sunburned, like major is not perfect. So let's not make our house pets look perfect because they're just not, they're natural living beings and they have like, they do things on their own that you can't control, so let's not control it. Let's embrace it. Right. So I actually, I really love that. Let's talk about like our plant fails — like yesterday you told me that you had [inaudible] your fiddle leaf fig led, like you repurposed the dead stick. Like I just love that so much because I'm like, Oh, you don't want to throw it away. You still want to hold onto it. Yeah.

Cara: 11:00 Oh yes. Now I've come to realize like mostly my struggles are due to like lack of information, not, I don't think I'm innately born a plant killer. I don't think anyone's really born, I don't know what you're doing yet. So, and I think it might've had to do with the perspective I used to have on how houseplants like in terms of decorating and interior design, which is basically like you're here as a decoration, you sit over there and I'm going to water you would, right. I feel like there's so much more and I feel like there's a lot of people that probably have the same struggle.

Cara: 11:36 So how is interacting with nature way more dynamic than that when it comes to bringing into our home. And do you have any tips for like re-framing that perspective?

Paige: 11:45 Oh my gosh, totally. I mean, we try, we're like the type of people when you come into the shop like you do, you, you look and obviously like you're gonna find a plant that you're drawn to. And then when you find that plant where like, okay, let's talk about this. Like how can you bring this into your home? And we want to make sure that you have the right kind of environment, the right kind of lifestyle that you're going to be able to take care of this plant. And it's gonna like thrive and not just survive in your space, right? So oftentimes there's a lot of plants that we bring in who like are barely holding on by like a thread, but then there's plants that you can bring into your house that actually will thrive in your environment and work with you.

Paige: 12:25 And I think that that's really the key is like not looking at Instagram and being like, I want to bring in this fiddle leaf fig because it's all over Instagram. And because it looks amazing while it's true. Yeah. And that's what a lot of people do. And honestly, let's make those mistakes, but also let's learn from them. So like don't do that again, but also you can have a treat, but maybe it's not a fiddle leaf fig, you know what I mean? And honestly like the fiddle leaves are one of, I don't even understand why they became such a trend because they are one of the worst. Like they're not easy. They're, they are like the very much a drama queen plant. She wants like she wants her leaves to be dusted, she needs the right amount of light. She wants direct sun but not too much.

Paige: 13:07 She wants water but only exactly. And so it's very much like this, Holy cow, this is a huge project. And when people bring that plant into their house, they're like, Oh my God, is this what every other house plant care is like? And the answer like no, no it's not. So I mean frankly we honestly, we don't bring in a lot of federally figs into the shot for that specific reason just because it's like we're not here to just sell you like a trendy plant on Instagram are here to sell you a plant that's going to work for you. So we have like [inaudible] the plants that you can only water once a month that we'll live in like the darkest of the areas. And then we have plants that if you are, this also goes back into like how do you approach coming, like bringing plants into your house that's not just decoration, but it's like, what kind of parent?

Paige: 13:55 What kind of plant parent are you going to be? Are you going to be, I'm totally adopting this from Hilton Carter. He, he came into our shop and he brought a, he, he talked about this, he was like, are you a cat mom or are you a dog mom? And the thing about it is, is like if you're a cat mom, you probably want a plant that you're going to be able to kind of ignore. Like it doesn't need a lot of attention. It's very independent and maybe you need to refresh this soil or like water it once in a while, but it doesn't need a lot of attention. Or you're a dog mom or dog dad and you're just like, I wanna take care of this thing every single day and I want to play with it. Or like I want to touch it. You know what I mean?

Paige: 14:36 Like it's totally, yes. Exactly. Exactly. And so those are like the next questions that we also ask. So we're like, what's delighting in your space? But also what kind of planned parent are you planning on being like, do you actually the time to take care of all of these plants? And I think there's also like this perception of like, I won an indoor jungle, which, well, that is like, it's amazing and it's beautiful, but we have to really think about like, Holy cow, if you bring in 30 plants into your house, each and every single one of those 30 plants needs individual attention. They're on their own schedule. It's not like you can go around and water all three plants, all 30 plans one day a week. Literally. It's not like that. So it's best to just kind of like begin to slowly incorporate plants into your life and you're gonna make mistakes.

Paige: 15:24 You're gonna kill plants. Like seven years later, I still kill plants. It's still happens to me. But there is like, I'm like, okay, what did I do, Rob? And sometimes yes, and sometimes there's like plants that you, you just like personally I cannot have aralia like it's this, this species of plant that's just like, I will never have an aralia yet in my house. And honestly, it's true for a fiddle Leafs too. Like I probably won't ever have a fiddle leaf unless I have the gigantic window that it absolutely means. Um, yeah. But yeah, I think, I think starting to ask yourself those types of questions and making sure that you're going to a spot that you can ask those questions too. Like big box stores. Yes, we have those really affordable prices. But here's the thing, those plans have lived in like giant warehouses for months and they w are those pens like everyday because they don't really know what they're doing, you know?

Paige: 16:19 And so you're buying a plant that's already set up for failure and a lot of people end up killing their plants because they weren't cared for right in the long term. And so they're like, Oh shoot, I'm a bad plant parent because this plant died. Well, actually no, it's because you probably purchased it from Home Depot. You know what I mean? So, uh huh. There's like just different, different things that you can do when you're bringing those plants into your home. And also like truly just understanding that this is a completely living being not kind of just like look cute on its own. Like you actually have to take care of it. So it like this nurturing like I don't know about you but a lot of um, a lot of people come in, they're like, you know, I don't have kids and I don't have a dog, but I really just want to like care for something.

Paige: 17:09 And that's also like, I mean there's something to that, right? Like you really, yeah. You have to take care of these things cause they're living just like nature, just like you just like me. It's like, it's very much [inaudible] this, uh, like living thing, you know?

Cara: 17:23 And it's more than watering, which is something that I guess I knew, but I didn't really know like hands on wise. I was just like,

Paige: 17:30 Oh by you and a water you and you will live right there is there is a lot more, I mean obviously like there's a day to day thing like when you and I like we need water every single day, right? And your plant needs water probably weekly, but it's like in the longterm like maybe we need, um, maybe we need to have like a self care bath or something. Like we just need to like refresh ourselves in when we do that we feel 10 times better.

Paige: 17:57 So it's kind of like the same thing with a plant. It's like every once in a while you need to do that little extra step in order to keep it happy and keep it fresh just like you just like me. So there are things that we try to really set up people for success. So like not only do we ask you a ton of questions when you come in, but we're also like, Hey, here's this plant care card for this specific plant. And so we literally give them a plant care card for each plant that circles and highlights the lighting, the watering, the sun light, um, any extra information, things like humidity, um, or things like that. Plus there's [inaudible] like extra info on the back. So like how to report, how to test the soil, how to know when something's going wrong. Um, so we're really just like really trying to set people up for, for like having a healthy relationship with their plants.

Cara: 18:50 Yeah, I love that perspective because that is something now in retrospect is really funny. Like that there are plant trends, but there's absolutely certain plants that are like, right. Any given moment. fiddle leaf fig and also right now, like the Monstera plant is huge.

Paige: 19:07 And honestly like, it's so funny because Monstera if you look at, it's so funny like shipping since having the shop, like I'll notice like when I watch movies or TV shows, I'll notice the plants in the movies movie from like five years ago or something and it's like this mall scene and there's literally like hundreds of Monstera planted in the mall. And I'm like, Oh my God. There she is. You know what I mean? So it's funny. It's like plants definitely. I mean there are specific plants right now that totally are like trending and, and or like forefront on like interior design.

Paige: 19:44 Oh my gosh, queer eye, right? Like queer eye is such a, he's so funny. Like every time they bring in a fiddle leaf big and like those little light rooms, I'm like, no, Oh no,

Cara: 19:58 no, it's not going to live.

Paige: 19:59 I'm like, no, please don't do that. Cause you're like literally teaching people like yeah, let's bring these things into our house to make it look good. But you forget that it's like, Oh wait, you actually have to tend to and care for it. So there's like sometimes where I'm just like, Ooh, I wish they don't do that. And honestly like Instagram sometimes it does that as well. And that goes back to something that I said earlier on. It's like your plant's not always going to be Instagram perfect. It's not, it's not always gonna just be this very perfect plant. There's things that go wrong all the time. And I just love how you have like your dead plant.

Cara: 20:31 montage — some of them are beyond repair, like super dead — and some of them are just struggling

Paige: 20:36 Yeah, But there's, I mean as there is with anything, right, there's always gonna be trends and there's always gonna be those. Like there's just always going to be trends. And I'm really curious to see what's gonna like be trending for 2020 like everybody is like, yeah, what do you think it's gonna be? But it's like, I mean it honestly, just the fact that plants are such a, it's, it's getting such a big spotlight right now really, really warms my soul because it really, like I said, it really, I hope that it really just helps us to connect better with nature because now more than ever do we need that. So.

Cara: 21:14 Right. And on the flip side of like the trends thing you like when you're like shopping for a house plan, it's really easy to get pigeonholed into like, here's the top 10 plants you need to buy.

Cara: 21:25 But in your shop there was the most wonderful plants that I literally never knew existed. And there's all kinds of like aesthetics and yeah. Different looks that you can still get. It's like finding a plant that works for your space. Like did you have like an ornamental cabbage?

Paige: 21:42 Oh yeah, yeah, totally. For the planter boxes that we did. Yeah, that was great. I did not know it was this gorgeous little garden. Don't eat it. You just look at him. What's even more funny about that? The ornamental cabbage that you can literally grow in your front yard is also a very common cut flower too. So like we not only do the Houseplant thing, but every once in a while, especially for like certain holidays. Um, and uh, we just did it for our one year shop anniversary, but we do like this thing called a STEM bar where we just sell flowers by the single STEM and we're not, we're not here to like bring in those top 10 house plans.

Paige: 22:18 While we do have [inaudible] a lot of those plants that are on that list, we only have them because they're easy to care for. Right. Or like, or because they're, I dunno, whatever. We don't bring in plants because we're like, Ooh, this plant is trending or this plant is, is on this top 10 list. We being in plants that we like. So I literally go handpick each one of these house plans that comes into the shop and I just pick them because of, um, how they look or, or if like there's many of one, you know what I mean? But when it comes to the STEM bar, it's like the same thing. We just pick up flowers that we like and that are in season and that are also the weirdest and the coolest because we're not like we want to bring into lips and white lilies.

Paige: 23:02 It's not about that. It's about like, let me introduce you to this really cool cabbage that you could totally have as a flower because it's so pretty too. You know what I mean?

Cara: 23:11 Yeah And that's what was cool was like, yeah, and really encouraging. Like let's find something that works for your space and also as interesting like isn't what everybody else was and is like a cool look. So that was definitely, definitely, it is exciting.

Paige: 23:25 But honestly, I think that's where those kinds of, those trends can kind of be born as well. Like there's this really beautiful flower called a Banksia flower and it's almost out of season right now. But we, we love this Lauer because not only does it last very long as a cut STEM, but it also looks exactly pretty much exactly the same dried. And it's such a statement flower, you don't need anything else. So in terms of like interior design, if you have one or two or three of this Banksia flower in a vase, it really just has like this different, more alternative kind of like look to it. It's like something that you've never really seen before. You know what I mean? And we like those things. We like doing things that are not common because that's kind of boring, right?

Cara: 24:14 You already know what it looks like. There's like a zillion pictures. Let's pick something that yes, yes, yes. For us that are on a journey to become reformed plant killers.

Paige: 24:25 Yeah. Yeah.

Cara: 24:29 First, what are some common hangups you see when it comes to houseplants? And then second, do you have some [inaudible] tips for great plants to start out with that maybe aren't in the usual Roundup?

Paige: 24:40 Yeah, sure. Um, I think that the first mistake that people make is that they want to bring in a house plant and they want to put it, and this isn't, this isn't anybody's fault, but they want to put it like the furthest away from their window. I mean, I plant it in its natural environment does not, I mean, first of all, they live outside, right? And so they're getting constant light no matter where they are. Even if there are, even if they're ground covered, they're still getting full light almost all day long.

Paige: 25:08 And so people's definitions of light in their house could be like totally wrong from what it actually is. So understanding the light in your house is the number one most important stuff that you need to take. So think about your space and think about how you're designing your space and like where you want to place the plant in terms of how much light it's going to get. So always as always, always, always start there. Start with your lighting. And it also helps to get something called a light meter. There's apps that you could literally download on your phone that's free and it tells you how much light you're getting in certain spots. So like let's say that you really do want to fill a corner in your bedroom that doesn't have a lot of light. Um, there is a plant for you. So maybe like, here's a thing, there's this, I don't know why it is a thing, but people think that succulents are the most easy plant to take care of and it is far from the truth.

Paige: 26:08 Like succulents are probably on the same line as fiddle leaf figs in terms of like maintenance and care and things like that. And we live in Denver, right? So we don't live in a climate mass fully supportive of succulents, I'm sure. Yeah, totally. I mean, honestly me too because it's really hard to find that perfect balance between light and water with those guys. So I was new, I would say like stay away from succulents. If you live a lifestyle where you're like, I travel a lot but I have a really sunny location and maybe a cactus is your go to plant or um, yeah, cactuses are great. Honestly, as long as they're getting like a Southern facing exposure or Western facing exposure, you literally only, depending on the size you water it maybe one to two times a month in the winter time, 99 cactuses out of 10 go into a dormancy period where you don't even water them any, still look great.

Paige: 27:03 And there's still this very eye-catching kind of um, aesthetically pleasing kind of plant, right? So, um, cactus are really great if you have the proper lighting. Now let's say that you have a north-facing window, which means that you don't get any direct sun at any part of the day. A great plant for that would 100%. And this is, this is actually a very common plant, but for good reason. It's a ZZ plant. They have these really beautiful glossy leaves and they kind of just like stack on top of each other and their new growth is this really stunning like lime green. Um, and yeah. Okay. Again, you water it when you tell people whenever they purchase it as easy. We're like water when you pay your rent and you're good, like [inaudible] you just [inaudible] and then you're solid. And then honestly, like for anybody else who like wants to take care of a plant of pathos or a philodendron is 100% the way to go there.

Paige: 27:54 They kind of have like this, Hmm. How do I say this? Like old fashion kind of stigma behind them because I think everybody in their mother grew up with apathose at one point, but these days there's really like [inaudible]. So there's probably like 10 solid varieties that we carry in the shop and that I see commonly around that you could purchase that's still apathos, but also looks different than like the standard green thing that was hanging in your, in your living room growing up as a kid, you know? So, um, yeah, yeah. Those are great cause there's like so many different varieties and they really, they kind of just do well in lots of different environments and they need water once a week. And honestly, like I put my apathos in the shower once a week and they love so, um, so, so yeah.

Paige: 28:37 So I would say like, just check your lighting and then, um, yeah, I mean cactus, ZZ path, those are always really good. Those are also like very common plants. I didn't really talk about like I'm coming, but, um, I believe like one of the more trendy plants of last year was like the pilea peperomioides. Um, which is like this circle plant that has like this white dot. And it, I don't know what it was about that plant but. So many people loved it and it, I mean with good reason, it's a stunning plant, but I'm just like, huh, what is it about this? Like if you were to go or all and yeah, if you were like, why, why do people like certain plants? I don't know. But that's also, again, like a very easy house plan to take care of. Um, sensitive area is probably one of my like all time favorite types of plants again, because they come in so many different varieties.

Paige: 29:26 And the coolest part about them is that they can go in just about every lighting condition from like super low to super high. So um, sense of areas, probably like one of the most common plants that I recommend for people just because I dunno, they really just have such different kind of coloration and um, styles in which they grow. So they really fit a lot of people's lifestyle. So maybe go into your local plant shop and ask for, um, to like look at their Sansoveria collection and look at their like apathos collection and maybe start there because those are definitely like, you can't go wrong with one of those. I have so much to go.

Cara: 30:06 Yes. But let's go back to the [inaudible] plant shower thing for a minute because I did not know this was until I joined like the fillings. Big support group. Yeah. Everyone else's plant is like, mine's too large. What do I do? Mine was like mine, literally dead.

Cara: 30:23 Okay. Noted. But anyway, people were like, yeah, I like shower my plant and I'm like, I did not know that was a thing. So is that like, it emulates rain, like why is that good versus just like watering it with a cup?

Paige: 30:37 There's a few things, right? So yeah, it totally emulates rain. And honestly that also touches on a topic that we should totally cover because like I think that there's this perception and when we bring house plants into our house, like they're these like fragile things, which some plants are totally fragile, don't get me wrong, but your plants in their natural environments, they have like animals and the natural elements like wind and really strong sunlight to really like combat against. Right? So when you bring house into your house, don't be afraid to touch them. Like we have so many customers, no, like just afraid to like touch their plants and like, I don't wanna hurt it.

Paige: 31:12 Guess what? You're not gonna hurt it. Just touch your plants honestly. Like the more you like involve them in your life, like bringing them into your shower, the deeper of a connection that you really have. So sometimes you hear people say like name your plants. It's because they're like, you want to really care for it because it requires care, right? So taking it to the next level, like bringing your plant into your shower is really awesome. I won't say that every plant likes to be showered, but I will say that a lot of them do. So let's take our pathos or fill an entry friend for example. She has a ton of leaves, right? And if you do live in Colorado, you do, or any kind of like, um, desert ish environment. You have a lot of dust in your house probably in, especially if you have animals.

Paige: 31:56 Like we have two 80 pound dogs, so there's a lot of dust in our house and path. Those has a ton of leaves. So instead of going through each individual leap and like dusting it with a cloth, I'm going to stick that in the shower and just have the shower, rinse all that dust off. So there's multiple like benefits to, um, two totally yet. Like putting your plan in the shower, but also just a little, another little tip is like, look at where your plant, like do a quick Google search and see where your plant or originates from and understand that. Like if a path, those, I believe they're probably some sort of South American, I should probably know this, owning a plant shop. But you know, it's probably just a variable. Yeah. Full environment. And they like, they like water, they like shop. They would totally like showers cause it's probably in a very moist, very um, wet climate. And so yeah, a shower B would be great versus like a cactus. Like you would never put a cactus in the shower. Right. We can see. Yeah. You just dealt.

Paige: 32:59 So, yeah, totally. I mean, and that also always like super fun. So like, and these days, especially I, which I'm sure wasn't a thing back then, so I must say that, yeah, thank goodness like plants are making and come back right now because there's a lot of really designed forward plant accessories that are kind of coming out to like really cute. Yeah. misters and really cute plant watering cans and things like that. So it makes tending to your plants fine. But it also like if you put your cute watering can next to your plant, it's, it's like a, it's an aesthetic for sure.

Cara: 33:31 It's like a decor moment

Cara: 33:33 For sure, yeah. So another thing that I see really strongly across your Instagram is sort of this intersection of like plants and self care. Um, what can plants teach us about self care or how can they help us, like, take better care of ourselves?

Paige: 33:46 Oh my gosh. I know it's — okay. So like going back to something I said earlier, but it's like every once in awhile we need like that little extra moment of let me slow everything down, not paying attention to anything else and just like take care of what I need and what my body needs. Right. And so when I really find that, you know, when you bring one or two plants into your house, like you, you do have to take care of them, but there's an opportunity there, right? So whether you have two plants or you have 200 plants, there's an opportunity to slow down and really like pay attention to what you're doing. Especially in our world today where we are glued. Like I literally have my phone right next to me right now. Our cell phones, our hands all day long.

Paige: 34:33 And so when you're watering your plant, I'm not going to have my cell phone in my hand like I'm going to be, yeah. I'm looking at my plan and like seeing if there are pests and diseases or seeing issues. Okay. Or seeing if they need like, um, a leaf removed or whatever. I don't know. But it's like you, it's just this really beautiful opportunity to slow down and like pay attention to what you're doing. And that could totally be a form of self care. But it also is like this nod to us, right to like here and let me just like chill for a second and just met. It's almost like a meditative process for me at this point where I just kind of like go around and check on everyone. I don't do this every day, especially now. But it was definitely something that was part of like my daily routine and like maybe, you know, a year and a half ago before the shop opened where I would just like walk around and really just pay attention and look at it, look at what was right in front of me.

Paige: 35:27 And that's totally a form of self care. So, um, sometimes we like make little posts here and there. We're like, have you wanted yourself just as much as you wanted your plants or is your partner feeling wa like, well care for like have you watered your whatever. You know what I mean? Is it cause it's like it's very much like this plants are as far as much a part of us as we are a part of them, so we just like to keep it real. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. Yeah. Such a good reminder because I personally have trouble slowing down, so okay. I really focused on my plants. I can take a second and it'll be good for me too. Yes. I mean try it next time. I mean, when you're, you're doing it, try to like not think about anything else and try not to like rush while you're doing it because oftentimes now I'm totally guilty of this Cara.

Paige: 36:19 It's like I sometimes just have to rush and do it, but I feel [inaudible] bad. Like there's this like sense of guilt where I'm like, Ooh, I know that I shouldn't be rushing and watering this plant, that she probably needs a little bit more care. But I do it as I know that she needs water, but maybe like taking a mental check and being like, Ooh, maybe I should check on her when I get back. Or whatever it is. So yeah, it's this really beautiful invitation really to, um, just just focus on what's going on right in front of you. Yeah. I love it.

Cara: 36:51 Yeah, much. Okay. One more thing that perplexes me and then we'll move on to the resources and the site and all of that. But yeah, first of all, like when you bring a plate inside, I just like assume like now it is immune to seasons, like it's not experiencing seasons.

Cara: 37:09 I feel like that's not necessarily true, especially with this lemon tree that I have, although it's just confused. Like right now it's currently blooming and it's all, so it's having a season, right, right. Anyway, what is the scope on indoor plants and seasons or cycles?

Paige: 37:27 This is actually a really interesting question and I'm actually really glad that you brought it up because we can kind of forget about that when we're talking about like indoor plants. Right. And, um, let's take, okay, so let's talk about your lemon tree for example. So unfortunately I'm not really sure like the exact answer, like why she might be blooming right now. Have you, I mean, have you had her outside or inside? Just real quick. Real quick inside. Okay. Inside. Okay. So let's say, you know, inside we can kind of regulate our temperatures just a little bit more.

Paige: 38:00 Obviously we have air conditioning and heat, ear heating, but maybe your plant is a little bit confused as to like what's going on. Cause obviously she's blooming right now. Where is she? She totally, she's like you said she's in the wrong season. Um, but plants are definitely on like a cycle and so were we right? We're totally on a cycle as well. But um, just as much as they're indoor plants, they're very attuned to what's going on outside because even though they're inside the light changes with the outside. So there's this really all I was studying, I've been studying cactus a lot right now because currently unfortunately we can't have cactus in the shop and that that's a whole other story. But right. We're going to be able to have cactus here in a few months. So I've been like doing extra research and there was like this one moment where it's like, so cacti totally go dormant in, in the wintertime.

Paige: 38:59 And this is true for just about everywhere that you live because they kind of go off of the lighting and they just understand that a little bit more, right? You can totally train your cacti to never go into dormancy, but you obviously you have to use like grow lights to do that with grow lights. You can like trick your cactus into thinking that it's [inaudible], uh, that it's summertime all year round. Um, yeah, I think it really just, it just comes down to like lighting and how the lighting changes. So while we may not underst— like notice that our light changes in our houses from the day to day, it totally does because right now, yeah. I think today's the first day. Yes. Today's the first day is the autumn Equinox, right. So, um, so now the days are going to get shorter and they're gonna start getting darker and much earlier.

Paige: 39:52 And this is definitely like a quick little tip for everyone out there. Your plants care will a hundred percent change now that the seasons are changing because they are on that, um, that internal clock, that internal cycle that they just naturally have that everybody naturally has. Right. So they're going to start slowly down just like us. Like we kind of go into like hibernation mode during the wintertime. Right. So you're, it's really do feel like they probably don't, they definitely don't need water as much and they're going to just kind of like maybe look a little different or maybe even you have like a, uh, like a [inaudible] type plant that's going to go completely dormant and go black and you'll just have like this pod of dirt during the whole winter time. It'll just open up and like your lemon tree, she's probably really soon gonna drop all of her leaves and look just like a stick for a few and then she's going to come back.

Paige: 40:46 It's, I'll have to like check in with you in a couple of months to see like what stage she's in, in the middle of winter time because that's really interesting. I wonder why her cycle might be off. I can't say that maybe I moved her into more light and she was like, Oh, it's summer. And she was not next to the window as much. I mean, outdoor plants are definitely confused right now. Unfortunately, climate change is definitely something that I've seen obvious and apparent and it's happening right now. So there's a lot of, um, you know, trees are starting to change color later. Um, they're starting to lose their leaves a lot later than they should be in flowers bloomed a lot earlier this year. So there's a lot of things that are going on in terms of the climate and things and yeah, it's kind of, yeah. Yeah. As long as were like talking about it and like trying to make moves to help for a better climate, I think that we can, we can get on the right path.

Paige: 41:41 But um, yeah, I mean houseplants are kind of like the same too. Like they kind of, some of them might freak out. Like you might be having like a plant that's blooming right now. That totally, yeah. Be blooming too. Just like you're lemon tree.

Cara: 41:54 So, okay. Another question. What's the last night you were like asking people, do you want an indoor or an outdoor? What is that? The difference between an indoor, there is a big difference and this is a really interesting, um, topic, right? Because like adopting indoor plants that totally live outside in some part of the world, right? So it's like, okay, how do I have an indoor plant? But if you think about like our climate here in Denver, Colorado is totally different than let's say Singapore, which is where a lot of succulents or cacti can be born. Um, and so it's like are they have to be indoors because they definitely cannot survive outside.

Paige: 42:41 So every place everywhere that every city that anybody lives in has a completely different climate. And yeah, certain indoor houseplants can totally be grown outside. So I follow this one, this one plant shop, I think they're called Pablo life. And um, they put month starer and I believe a few other philodendrons outside. Like they actually planted a monster outside, which you would think like, Holy crap, that's a [inaudible] does our environment. But he, I believe he just did it as like a test and he just put it outside and it was doing okay surprisingly until like one day it got completely blasted by the summit, just like pretty much died. So it's like, I mean, you can't, here's a thing, like whenever you're going plant shopping, if you're plant shopping and your indoors, those are indoor plants. Do not take your indoor plants and put them outside because then you'll have like one stair that got completely burned.

Paige: 43:39 Um, and we even had a customer yesterday who, um, she had bought, it was like a [inaudible]. It was a Calafia and she had had an indoors and then she, um, you know, she was like, I'm going to put it outside because it looks like it needed more light. And then our son here in Colorado is very, very, very harsh. And so taking an incredibly low light house plant and putting it outside is just like death. It's like a death sentence. So you just can't, I mean, there's really no, like you just can't put indoor plants outside, especially here in Colorado because our climate is very sporadic and it changes all the time. And one second, it could be like cloudy and raining and then the next second you could have this very intense sun. So we just don't ever recommend people to put indoor houseplants outside though we see it often. There's certain plants that are totally adaptable that can adapt to those climates, but we really just don't recommend it. Just in terms of like the health of your plant, just don't do it.

Cara: 44:42 Yeah. Like initially I was like, aren't all technically outdoor plants, but no, it was totally like a region and a climate. Yes. Okay.

paige: 44:51 Yeah. And they are, they are outdoor plants somewhere. So somewhere of piling a pepperoni Wade who lives in her naturally Ironman. But I mean if you don't live there, you can't have that. Okay. So just to kind of wrap up, we talked a little bit about this last night, but the info out there on the internet with plants can be so overwhelming. It's flooded with different opinions and perspectives on what you should be doing. And then when you're ready. Okay. Driving like me, it's like a source of guilt as you like beat yourself up. Right. Killing it. Yeah. So what are some good resources for learning to care for plants, whether it's books or blogs or classes? Yes. Okay. So the number one thing that you can do anywhere that you live is go visit your local plant shop.

Paige: 45:40 And I'm totally not just saying that because I, I only [inaudible] but I'm just saying that like, going back to what I literally just said, is that every region, every year, city has its own set of like, uh, right climate, right? And so talking to your local house plan or plant shop is going to really help you understand, like if you live in Texas and you go into plant shop in Texas, they probably have a lot of indoor house plants outside. And so that's because in Texas, that's totally a thing, which you can totally do. And let me know if you need some local houseplants, a house that house that shops in Texas. Um, but, uh, if you go and talk to your local shop, like we can tell you like, no, you don't want to put this plant here because it's too much sunlight or, um, you, you can do this because we have this going on here.

Paige: 46:38 So literally just talking to your local shop will tell you. And I will say, and I don't mean to like put anyone else down, but specifically plant shops and not like flourish shops is really where you're going to get like [inaudible] the correct information. And I'm not, I'm not trying to like put anyone down on any, any flower shops out there, like don't come at me. But, um, we, I mean there's a reason why we're a specialty plant shop. You know, like we [inaudible] we know a lot about plants and plants that do well in Denver. So like when we teach our house plant one Oh one classes, this leads to the next thing is like, take a class, take a class at your local local shop too. It's like we will tell you everything that you need to know about Denver's lighting and watering your house on to Deborah.

Paige: 47:22 So here in Denver and our house plant 101class. We talk about our water because even though you would think that we have really good water, we actually, we, we actually have what you call like harsh water and it just basically means like a mineral, which mineral rich water. So we don't recommend people to water their husbands with tap water because it's a very mineral rich and a lot of plants, tropical plants just don't have that in their natural environment. So they, they don't take to it well. So we say use rainwater, always the best or use filtered water. Um, and that's the only information that you'll get if you talk to somebody who really knows what's going on, you know, whatever. Of course. Well, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's, I mean that makes me sad about that, but it also is like, I mean there, that's why, that's why you picked us cause we got your back.

Paige: 48:11 But um, so yeah, definitely. Number one, talk to your local shop. Take a local class if you can. Um, also there's a lot, especially right now, there's a lot of online plant, uh, plant shops that you can purchase plants online with. And I won't [inaudible] I don't want to say any specific names, but definitely like make sure that it's a website that has a plethora of information about specific plants and not just like lighting mother. Yeah. So you know what I mean? Like make sure it has like a good little bio about the plan before you purchase it. Otherwise they're just generalizing and that's where you're gonna fail. Um, that's also true for like the information that you'd just Google right away. I always tell people like, look up a forum specifically that has pictures of what's going on with your plant so that you can like really narrow it down.

Paige: 49:01 Cause if you do a quick Google search, like why is my calathia crisping, it's like everybody in the worlds could talk about why their Calathia is [inaudible] know what I mean? So you really have to like, we're doing an Instagram post too, right? Cause your followers probably follow you in your, you're a region first. So just be like, Hey, Hey Denver people are Hey Chicago friends, like what's going on? Does anybody have the same issue? So I think Instagram is a really beautiful resource. You can also, I have totally hit up like a, a plant shop in Portland to like ask them like questions. So I mean, you know, Instagram is a really amazing resource and I hope it sticks around because it's really S like it's, it's opened up a lot of doors for a lot of people, but it also just is this really huge thing like information hub.

Paige: 49:50 Same with YouTube. YouTube is so huge in terms of like, there's so many new houseplant YouTubers out there and all they really do, they just have all their channels are literally just talking about. So yes, I highly recommend Nick Pileggi. I swear there's no like sponsorship in any of the things that I'm naming on this. But um, Nick Peleggi his, I believe he's, uh, urban urban jungle Philly is his Instagram, but he, he knows his stuff. Like, Holy cow. I've never, I've never known anybody to be able to pronounce that many plant names. That sounds exactly like let's be real. Scientific plant names can get real wishy washy, but he just like hits it. He thinks he's got it down.

Cara: 50:37 Man. I feel so encouraged. Like, Oh my God. I'd say those are just not my thing was ill informed. That's, thank you. Yeah.

Paige: 50:46 Okay. Yes, that's exactly, I mean honestly that's really, that's really what it is and that's true for everybody listening. Like if you feel like you're a bad plant mom, if you're, if you like feel like you don't have a green thumb or if you literally call yourself a black them, it is not because you're a black gum, it's because you just haven't gotten the right information. So just take the time, take the time to get the right information. Just like you would take the time. If you're going to research a new diet, you're going to really research it before you do it. So same thing with place.

Cara: 51:12 Okay. Where can everyone connect with you on?

Paige: 51:16 Yes. uh, you can totally follow us at re-root gardens on Instagram. We're also on Facebook too. Um, we just launched our new branding, which I'm very excited about, but our website is still under construction as of this moment. Hopefully it's going to be up and running soon while you'll be able to actually purchase plants from us too. So reroute gardens.com is where you can find that you can sign up for our email list to get the yeah. The, the updates for that.

New Speaker: 51:44 So totally gonna need to do cause when I move I can still buy plants

Paige: 51:49 YESSSS, Thank you. Yes.

Cara: 51:53 Yeah, this was so, so good. Thank you so much for all this good insight.

Paige: 51:55 Thank you so much for having me!

Cara: 52:02 Bye. Have a good day.

Speaker 4: 52:03 Bye you do.

#OBSESSED: 52:09 Hashtag obsessed.

Cara: 52:15 Okay. So what I'm obsessed with this week, and I mean like seriously obsessed is shower bundles. So what these are is basically a plant bouquet where the ends are tied together and you secure it upside down behind the shower head. Um, so it's out of the direct stream of the water and then the herbs and botanicals basically interact with the heat and steam of your shower and they release like these aroma, therapeutic smells that help you feel relaxed and revitalized. So also it's just super freaking gorgeous. Like, hello, bougie shower. I don't think I can go back because it's like, it's beautiful, like to have plants in your shower. Otherwise it's kind of like harsh and you know, tile, cold plants, like make it feel so homey and so beautiful. Um, there's a picture in the show notes, you can see like just how pretty it is and why I'm swooning.

Cara: 53:12 Um, so page from reroute makes them seasonally. So the one right now has eucalyptus and different florals like Rose and lavender. And then for Christmas she has like one with, um, they're so cool. So hopefully her site will be all up and running. So when I moved to Texas, I can order them because, Oh my gosh, they're amazing. Um, they last about a month and then afterward you can use it as a dried arrangement, which is just so cool. Like just another amazing way to get more plants into our home. And this one you don't have to water, it will look beautiful just hanging there. Um, but it's such a cool idea. Like I, I've seen it with eucalyptus before, but the whole like bundle arrangement and seasonal vibe is just like so, so cool. So that is what I'm very, very obsessed with this week.

WAIT, WHAT: 54:06 Wait, what?

Cara: 54:15 So my, Wait, What for this week is that I have killed a cactus. When Paige was talking about how they are a super easy plant to take care of and a good one to start with. I didn't want to admit it, but yeah, I've definitely killed one. Um, I think it was because I over watered it. I just loved it too hard and it probably drowned. But I just wanted to offer this information up both for the sake of honesty and because I want you to know that you're not alone. Like I definitely have struggled hard with plants and I'm working on it. It's a journey. But I would also like to know if you're in the same boat with me, have you killed a cactus? Are you like shocked at my terrible plant breeding skills? I want to know what you think. Use hashtag MakeSpace podcast to share with me on social and if you need some extra inspo that will make you feel better about yourself.

Cara: 55:18 Hop over to my Instagram and check out my story. Highlight it literally is like me versus plants and it basically catalogs every plant that I have killed and or is struggling at least within the past few months because trust me there have been plenty more. Um, but this is just to show you that it's a journey. I'm not perfect obviously, but also don't feel bad if you're in the same boat and if anything it'll give you really good laugh. I hope you liked this episode. If you did, be sure to just scroll down and give it some stars or leave a full review. If you have some specifics about what you're loving and I will talk to you guys next week. Oh, I'm mama wait,

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